Fierce, Freethinking Fatties

letdownbeautiful:

I’m so triggered right now. Apparently I’m fat and obese because I don’t want to eat healthy, don’t want to get off my butt and work hard and because I don’t care about my health.

I guess if I starve myself into the healthy BMI range then people will congratulate me for my…

So today you wrote that the secret is you don’t have to starve (Very HAES. YAY!) But two weeks ago you wrote this: “The first month was hell because I was hungry almost all the time.” You were trying to prove that you didn’t follow the HAES guidelines of eating a balanced, varied, moderate diet and exercising moderately. 

So, now I’m curious. Is the secret what HAES has said all along, that you don’t have to starve to be healthier, or is it what you said a couple of weeks ago—being miserable for a month because you’re so hungry is the way to go?

Healthy At Every Size should really be called All Fat People Are Perfectly Healthy. Because that's what they really mean, isn't it? Even if someone is 500 pounds, diabetic and in a wheelchair, HAES cultists will still shriek that "you aren't their doctor!!!" Well they aren't either, but for some reason they think it's OK when they do it. I'm also yet to see a HAES advocate step in when a thin person is accused or starving themselves.
Anonymous

anonymouslayabout:

fiercefatties:

anonymouslayabout:

fiercefatties:

anonymouslayabout:

fiercefatties:

anonymouslayabout:

fiercefatties:

anonymouslayabout:

Me neither. Weird huh?

Really? I see it all the time. Her’es an example from the woman you said “fuck her” about.

http://danceswithfat.wordpress.com/2010/05/07/hypocrisy/

I said fuck her because she’s a selfish twit who wasted people’s time trying to do a marathon she wasn’t prepared for, not for this. Ragen chastian is not anywhere near ready for marathoning and in order to run one, she’d need to lose weight because her present body weight is going to impede her ability to do so.

So you’re the athletics police. Good for you. That wasn’t the point of my response here, but whatever. At least now you can stop saying that you’ve never see a HAES advocate speak against thin shaming. Because you have, from someone you obviously have very little respect for. 

I’m not the “athletics police”. I don’t dislike Ragen because she wants to exercise. I dislike her because she lies. Her “national dance competiton” wins were novice level participation ribbons at a very regional competition of little merit, of which she only got first place two out of those three years.

She also did not run a marathon, she walked one, and proper race etiquette dictates you start at the BACK of the gate if you’re slow, NOT THE FRONT as she stated in the post so you aren’t holding up faster runners and increasing their chances of injury, and that you leave the course if you’re taking longer than 8-9 hours and try again. She also lied about her degree credentials and god knows what else.

To reiterate, I don’t dislike ragen because she thinks she’s an athlete (she’s not), I dislike her because she’s a lying twit.

As for the part where I can “stop saying” I’ve never seen that, sure I’ve NEVER seen it. But this is literally the only time I’ve had. And one example from someone who frequently lies about everything is not exactly representative.  

Ah. Well, maybe you’re not paying attention? Here’s a few more. It took me 30 seconds with Google to find them.

The Militant Baker:

http://www.themilitantbaker.com/2013/08/can-we-stop-with-skinny-shaming-already.html

Lindy West:

http://jezebel.com/thin-women-ive-got-your-back-could-you-get-mine-1173888442

The Health at Every Size Blog:

http://healthateverysizeblog.org/tag/skinny-shaming/

Again, isolated examples (the militant baker is also dodgy with honesty by the way) in a slew of tumblr shit.

Just because a few well known blogs have stated such doesn’t mean that’s the typical viewpoint.

And I’ll believe fat people can be athletes as anything other than extreme outlier when I actually see fat people be athletes.

 I couldn’t care less what you believe. Your asker said that they’d never seen a HAES advocate speak out against thin shaming. You agreed. I know how you feel about spreading false information and wanted to make sure that your readers don’t think that just because you haven’t seen HAES advocates speak out against thin shaming that it doesn’t happen. 

And I’m sure that people who have heart attacks don’t have heart damage some of the time. Happens != common.

I agree—HAES advocates denoucings all sorts of body shaming does happen about as heart damage does to people who have had heart attacks.

Odd analogy, but okay. 

Healthy At Every Size should really be called All Fat People Are Perfectly Healthy. Because that's what they really mean, isn't it? Even if someone is 500 pounds, diabetic and in a wheelchair, HAES cultists will still shriek that "you aren't their doctor!!!" Well they aren't either, but for some reason they think it's OK when they do it. I'm also yet to see a HAES advocate step in when a thin person is accused or starving themselves.
Anonymous

anonymouslayabout:

fiercefatties:

anonymouslayabout:

fiercefatties:

anonymouslayabout:

fiercefatties:

anonymouslayabout:

Me neither. Weird huh?

Really? I see it all the time. Her’es an example from the woman you said “fuck her” about.

http://danceswithfat.wordpress.com/2010/05/07/hypocrisy/

I said fuck her because she’s a selfish twit who wasted people’s time trying to do a marathon she wasn’t prepared for, not for this. Ragen chastian is not anywhere near ready for marathoning and in order to run one, she’d need to lose weight because her present body weight is going to impede her ability to do so.

So you’re the athletics police. Good for you. That wasn’t the point of my response here, but whatever. At least now you can stop saying that you’ve never see a HAES advocate speak against thin shaming. Because you have, from someone you obviously have very little respect for. 

I’m not the “athletics police”. I don’t dislike Ragen because she wants to exercise. I dislike her because she lies. Her “national dance competiton” wins were novice level participation ribbons at a very regional competition of little merit, of which she only got first place two out of those three years.

She also did not run a marathon, she walked one, and proper race etiquette dictates you start at the BACK of the gate if you’re slow, NOT THE FRONT as she stated in the post so you aren’t holding up faster runners and increasing their chances of injury, and that you leave the course if you’re taking longer than 8-9 hours and try again. She also lied about her degree credentials and god knows what else.

To reiterate, I don’t dislike ragen because she thinks she’s an athlete (she’s not), I dislike her because she’s a lying twit.

As for the part where I can “stop saying” I’ve never seen that, sure I’ve NEVER seen it. But this is literally the only time I’ve had. And one example from someone who frequently lies about everything is not exactly representative.  

Ah. Well, maybe you’re not paying attention? Here’s a few more. It took me 30 seconds with Google to find them.

The Militant Baker:

http://www.themilitantbaker.com/2013/08/can-we-stop-with-skinny-shaming-already.html

Lindy West:

http://jezebel.com/thin-women-ive-got-your-back-could-you-get-mine-1173888442

The Health at Every Size Blog:

http://healthateverysizeblog.org/tag/skinny-shaming/

Again, isolated examples (the militant baker is also dodgy with honesty by the way) in a slew of tumblr shit.

Just because a few well known blogs have stated such doesn’t mean that’s the typical viewpoint.

And I’ll believe fat people can be athletes as anything other than extreme outlier when I actually see fat people be athletes.

 I couldn’t care less what you believe. Your asker said that they’d never seen a HAES advocate speak out against thin shaming. You agreed. I know how you feel about spreading false information and wanted to make sure that your readers don’t think that just because you haven’t seen HAES advocates speak out against thin shaming that it doesn’t happen. 

Healthy At Every Size should really be called All Fat People Are Perfectly Healthy. Because that's what they really mean, isn't it? Even if someone is 500 pounds, diabetic and in a wheelchair, HAES cultists will still shriek that "you aren't their doctor!!!" Well they aren't either, but for some reason they think it's OK when they do it. I'm also yet to see a HAES advocate step in when a thin person is accused or starving themselves.
Anonymous

anonymouslayabout:

fiercefatties:

anonymouslayabout:

fiercefatties:

anonymouslayabout:

Me neither. Weird huh?

Really? I see it all the time. Her’es an example from the woman you said “fuck her” about.

http://danceswithfat.wordpress.com/2010/05/07/hypocrisy/

I said fuck her because she’s a selfish twit who wasted people’s time trying to do a marathon she wasn’t prepared for, not for this. Ragen chastian is not anywhere near ready for marathoning and in order to run one, she’d need to lose weight because her present body weight is going to impede her ability to do so.

So you’re the athletics police. Good for you. That wasn’t the point of my response here, but whatever. At least now you can stop saying that you’ve never see a HAES advocate speak against thin shaming. Because you have, from someone you obviously have very little respect for. 

I’m not the “athletics police”. I don’t dislike Ragen because she wants to exercise. I dislike her because she lies. Her “national dance competiton” wins were novice level participation ribbons at a very regional competition of little merit, of which she only got first place two out of those three years.

She also did not run a marathon, she walked one, and proper race etiquette dictates you start at the BACK of the gate if you’re slow, NOT THE FRONT as she stated in the post so you aren’t holding up faster runners and increasing their chances of injury, and that you leave the course if you’re taking longer than 8-9 hours and try again. She also lied about her degree credentials and god knows what else.

To reiterate, I don’t dislike ragen because she thinks she’s an athlete (she’s not), I dislike her because she’s a lying twit.

As for the part where I can “stop saying” I’ve never seen that, sure I’ve NEVER seen it. But this is literally the only time I’ve had. And one example from someone who frequently lies about everything is not exactly representative.  

Ah. Well, maybe you’re not paying attention? Here’s a few more. It took me 30 seconds with Google to find them.

The Militant Baker:

http://www.themilitantbaker.com/2013/08/can-we-stop-with-skinny-shaming-already.html

Lindy West:

http://jezebel.com/thin-women-ive-got-your-back-could-you-get-mine-1173888442

The Health at Every Size Blog:

http://healthateverysizeblog.org/tag/skinny-shaming/